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The gargantuan bet on the future of A.I. is driving the U.S. stock market and economic growth. And the building of data centers is sucking up so many construction resources, it’s crowding out the construction of homes. The multitrillion-dollar question is: Will this bet pay off? Or is it a bubble, destined to burst and pull the economy down with it? Paul Kedrosky is a partner at SK Ventures, a fellow at M.I.T., and the author of a newsletter about A.I.. He thinks we’re very obviously in a bubble. Azeem Azhar is a technology entrepreneur and the author of the newsletter Exponential View. He has a more optimistic take. 00:00 Intro 01:58 The Case That There’s an A.I. Bubble 07:20 Azeem’s Dashboard View 09:12 Tokens and Pricing Pressure 16:37 Compute vs. Model Labs 20:15 What Counts as a Pop? 22:01 OpenAI and Anthropic’s I.P.O.s 31:49 Why Is There No Apple A.I.? 37:34 Debt-Fueled AI Buildout 44:20 What A.I. Adoption Looks Like 46:32 Repricing Jobs and Labor 50:16 Backlash and Regulation Risk 57:59 We’re Not Ready for A.I. Bots 01:01:57 What Would Change Their Minds? 01:04:03 Book Recommendations Read the full transcript here: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/16/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-azeem-azhar-paul-kedrosky.html Watch more on @EzraKleinShow Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.html

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