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Systems change needs a room, not a panel. Yarrow Kraner of HATCH put ocean plastics executives on a boat with the NGOs fighting them. 14 of 16 social impact sprints from that collaboration got funded. This is TBLI Radical Truth with Robert Rubinstein. Twenty years in, Kraner has worked out the part most conferences never solve: what happens on the Monday afterwards. His answer is curation, a cap on numbers, and a cultural agreement that you do not make a promise you cannot keep. The Summits break even. The Impact Labs pay the bills. Yarrow Kraner is the founder of HATCH, now in its twentieth year, and of HATCH Studios, which runs systems change projects with universities, brands and foundations. He is also co-founder of H360, an AI matchmaking platform for impact collaboration. WHAT'S COVERED - Why the room is capped between 100 and 135 people, and why the guest list is never sent out in advance - The cultural agreements set on day one, and why accountability is what builds a trust container - Mycelium as the model: one broken connection and the whole network fails - Going from a public festival to invitation only, and the values problem that created - Intentional rather than exclusive: bundling hard costs and using the margin as a scholarship fund - Eight universities reimagining who can actually get a degree, and asking the world's largest toy company to ship critical thinking rather than toys - The 2019 expedition that put executives from Dow, Procter and Gamble and Unilever on a boat with Greenpeace and WWF, cut open a fish in front of them, and had them write letters to their own children about what they would do - The World Economic Forum estimate of 132 years to close the workplace gender gap, and an attempt to do it in under five with ten Fortune 50 CEOs - The Amazon basin, rivers in the sky, and crowdsourcing debt relief instead of buying offsets - Why 95% of venture funding lands in three states, and what that misses in the Heartland - Regenerative farming, soil carbon and Project Drawdown as the drawdown nobody funds - Why climate tech funds chase unicorns and direct air capture while agriculture goes unfunded - H360, and the 850,000 SDG-tagged UN projects that do not talk to each other CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction, and meeting Yarrow Kraner 03:27 Two nodes: the Summits and the Impact Labs 04:22 How you get astronauts, artists and celebrities in the same room 05:31 Mentorship that became peer to peer, and why the mix does the work 08:27 The cultural agreements: do not make a promise you cannot keep 09:16 Mycelium, and why one broken connection fails the whole network 11:40 From a public festival to an invitation only room 12:58 Intentional, not exclusive, and keeping money out of the way 14:01 Impact Labs: eight universities reimagining who gets a degree 15:19 The plastics boat: Dow, P&G and Unilever with Greenpeace and WWF 16:09 Cutting open a fish, and the letters they wrote to their children 17:15 132 years to close the gender gap, and trying to do it in five 18:09 The Amazon, rivers in the sky, and crowdsourcing debt relief 21:56 "You don't transform institutions, you transform the leaders" 22:51 Purpose as a talent competition 24:19 Flyover country, and where 95% of venture funding actually goes 25:14 Regenerative farming, soil carbon and Project Drawdown 27:30 Why climate tech funds chase unicorns and skip agriculture 32:14 H360, and the 850,000 UN projects that never talk to each other 36:50 Why they never send you the guest list in advance ▶ Subscribe for a new Radical Truth conversation every week: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDBhRVM93uUnAAtqOMIz_yg?sub_confirmation=1 RELATED EPISODES - Joshua Haynes, Masawa, on founder psychology as the risk nobody prices. - Philipp Kauffmann, Sacred Forests, on paying for a result rather than a promise. MORE ON YARROW KRANER - HATCH: https://hatchexperience.org - H360: https://h360.ai ABOUT THE TBLI RADICAL TRUTH PODCAST Welcome to the TBLI Radical Truth Podcast, where we feature the pioneers redefining the purpose of capital. For 30 years, TBLI Group has been the world's leading ESG and impact investing network. Here's why Radical Truth is different: most finance podcasts protect the industry — Radical Truth interrogates it. Every week, unfiltered conversations with the founders, fund managers and system-changers actually moving capital toward a liveable future, and calling out the impact-washing that isn't. No sponsors. No pretending. TBLI GROUP - https://www.tbligroup.com - Robert Rubinstein on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertrubinstein/ #SystemsChange #SocialImpact #OceanPlastics #RegenerativeAgriculture #ImpactInvesting #Collaboration #ClimateAction #Leadership #ESG #ProjectDrawdown #YarrowKraner #TBLIRadicalTruth Recorded in 2023.

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