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Retired Army Ranger officer Larry Perino, who survived the 1993 Battle of Mogadishu depicted in Black Hawk Down, joins host Sara to discuss leadership under extreme pressure, rebuilding purpose after military transition, and his current mission leading commercial and small business banking for veteran-owned businesses at Navy Federal Credit Union. The conversation blends combat stories with practical leadership lessons on trust, culture, emotional regulation, and finding meaningful work. Show Notes: 00:00 - Introduction to the episode and guest Larry Perino, 25-year Army veteran and Navy Federal Credit Union AVP 01:00 - Larry thanks Sara and the conversation begins 01:38 - How Larry's definition of purpose evolved from military mission to civilian career 03:04 - The free fall of military transition and the search for work-life balance 04:13 - How Larry's wife encouraged him to look into Navy Federal Credit Union 05:14 - Finding a mission-driven culture and becoming proud to call himself "a banker" 06:08 - The scale of the opportunity: 1.8 million veteran-owned businesses, Navy Federal serving only 1% 07:21 - Larry introduces his combat background with Task Force Ranger in Somalia, 1993 07:56 - The fifteen-hour firefight and losing 18 Americans 08:14 - Larry's commitment to telling his fallen comrades' story so they are not forgotten 09:01 - Sara reflects on shared values around memory and legacy 09:39 - Perspective from a small business owner on the value of a good banker 10:36 - The importance of understanding small business owners' financial knowledge gaps 11:34 - The concept of a "good no" and pointing business owners to resources 12:08 - Discussion of mission and culture being intertwined at Navy Federal 12:36 - The value of psychological safety in workplace culture 13:19 - Larry credits leaders who gave him grace and trust throughout his career 14:08 - Larry's "hiring you to solve my problem" philosophy on leadership responsibility 15:07 - Transition into discussing leading under pressure without losing control 15:29 - Larry describes the intensity of the Mogadishu firefight 16:07 - The Ranger Creed and how culture becomes lived reality in crisis 17:36 - Corporal Jamie Smith's wounding and the intensity of the battle 19:26 - Larry describes freezing in fear and the internal dialogue that followed 21:20 - Willing himself to move one step at a time 22:23 - Techniques for self-calming under extreme stress 23:22 - Realizing the danger of becoming "a burden" to the team 24:10 - Story about fellow soldier Jeff Struecker noting Larry's calm radio voice 25:16 - The coping mechanism of focusing on others instead of yourself 27:36 - Never leaving a fallen comrade and finding resilience through trusted teammates 28:13 - Reflecting on how culture and training created calm under fire 29:08 - Discussion of Ranger culture's broader applications to organizations 30:00 - Transition to applying high-stakes lessons to everyday workplace pressure 31:05 - The importance of pausing before reacting, especially with family 32:07 - Keeping perspective: "nobody's dying" but stakes still matter to members 33:00 - Explanation of credit union structure and member ownership 39:01 - Sara shares her own calming techniques, dogs and drinking water 34:04 - Shoutout to Jefferson Fisher's communication techniques and taking a breath 36:36 - The value of being human and authentic as a leader 39.53 - How employees can tell if a leader is self-serving 40:41 - Larry's own transition story: taking a misaligned government contracting job after retirement 43:29 - Discussion of translating mission into daily action for the team 45:10 - Encouraging referrals and using bankers as a resource, even for a "no" 46:01 - Introducing SBDC and SCORE mentorship resources for entrepreneurs 47:15 - Explaining "commander's intent" and aligning teams to a larger mission 48:19 - Practical steps for connecting with Navy Federal for a small business loan 50:35 - Closing thoughts: find a purpose and make it matter 51:12 - Ted Lasso-inspired advice: be curious, not judgmental 51:56 - Final thanks and closing remarks SEO: Retired Army Ranger Larry Perino shares his Black Hawk Down survival story and how it shaped his leadership at Navy Federal Credit Union serving veteran-owned businesses. Keywords: Larry Perino, Navy Federal Credit Union, Black Hawk Down, Battle of Mogadishu, veteran owned businesses, leadership under pressure, Army Ranger, small business lending

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