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Black Lawyer Exposes the Truth About Immigration, Justice & America's Broken System | James A. Jones Welcome to the Be The Messenger Podcast. In this powerful conversation, Dr. Brian Chad Starks sits down with longtime friend, fraternity brother, and immigration attorney James Anthony Jones for a deeply personal and timely conversation about immigration, justice, race, leadership, community responsibility, and what it means to keep fighting when systems fail the people they are supposed to serve. James shares his journey from growing up in public housing in Spartanburg, South Carolina, to becoming an immigration attorney representing families across the country. He reflects on the influence of Malcolm X, his years at Wofford College, the power of Black student organizing, and why Black and Brown communities must resist division in this current political moment. Key insights include: The impact of early mentorship and reading on James’s pursuit of law and social justice. The formative experiences at Wofford College that cultivated leadership, activism, and community building. Strategies for navigating systemic oppression in educational, legal, and law enforcement institutions. The importance of controlling narratives and securing rights through advocacy. Critical analysis of contemporary issues such as immigration policy, racial inequities, and community disinvestment. The necessity of collective action and individual responsibility in advancing justice. Practical guidance for navigating immigration law amidst misinformation and systemic biases. The role of faith, resilience, and cultural identity in sustaining activism. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction to Attorney James Anthony Jones 01:08 James Jones on his “why” and becoming an attorney 01:58 Malcolm X and the moment that shaped his purpose 03:05 Growing up poor, Black, and determined in Spartanburg 05:18 “I knew I didn’t belong poor” 08:04 Choosing Wofford College as a path to law school 14:27 How Wofford prepared James for legal advocacy 17:35 Sociology, qualitative research, and learning from the custodial staff 21:46 The Oblong: Black student strategy, politics, and collective leadership 23:33 Racism, resistance, and fighting for student rights at Wofford 30:22 Returning home to Spartanburg to fight the good fight 31:07 Leadership, community investment, and accountability 36:02 What happens when leaders stop showing up? 40:14 Violence, policing, and the cost of institutional neglect 42:27 Has the Black middle class dropped the ball? 47:06 Why showing up still matters 50:29 Florida State Law, Omega Psi Phi, and the immigration law path 58:55 What James A. Jones P.C. does today 01:00:46 ICE, immigration enforcement, and the dangers of abuse 01:06:05 Black and Brown communities in the current political climate 01:07:44 How the war on drugs shaped immigration and incarceration 01:13:49 Illegal immigrant vs. undocumented: what the language really means 01:20:52 Why unity matters now 01:21:59 James Jones shares hope, legal guidance, and final words 01:24:58 Healing First. Justice Always. Reform 4Ever. CONNECT WITH ATTORNEY JAMES A. JONES James A. Jones, P.C. Website: https://www.jamesajones.us CONNECT WITH DR. BRIAN CHAD STARKS Subscribe to Be The Messenger: https://www.youtube.com/@BeTheMessenger Read Courageous Hearts: https://brianchadstarks.com/courageoushearts/ Executive Consulting: https://brianchadstarks.com/programs/ Speaking: https://brianchadstarks.com/speaking/ Coaching: https://brianchadstarks.com/coaching/ Free Resource + Messenger Dispatch: https://brianchadstarks.com If this conversation challenged your thinking, subscribe to the Be The Messenger Podcast and share your biggest takeaway in the comments. Healing First. Justice Always. Reform 4Ever.

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