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TTWYK - https://www.ttwyk.com/ Mark Mills OBE built Cardpoint from three cash machines into a business valued at around £175 million. Since then, he has worked with 36 business owners, been involved in 31 sales or exit projects, handled around £770 million worth of deals and worked across businesses employing roughly 3,500 people. In this episode of TTWYK, Mark explains what it really takes to build, scale and sell a business, from recurring revenue and business models to failure, pressure, wealth, family and knowing when it is finally time to exit. Mark grew Cardpoint to around £100 million in annual revenue and £19.8 million EBITDA. But the polished success story leaves plenty out. He talks about sitting alone on a Sunday night with an overdue VAT bill and no idea how he was going to pay his staff the next day. His first business failed. Someone told him he was rubbish at business and should become a civil servant. He responded by doubling down. We get into the difficult middle of running a business, the bit where it can feel like you're dragging a fridge through treacle, and why Mark believes this is where much of the wealth actually gets built. We also talk about what happens after the exit. Sudden wealth. Loss of purpose. Why some founders regret selling. Why some fall back in love with the business they originally wanted to leave. And why Mark now helps business owners prepare for life after the company as well as the sale itself. IN THIS EPISODE Why Mark believes entrepreneurs can be born and made The traits he sees in successful business owners How he reverse engineered Cardpoint towards £100m revenue Why recurring revenue matters How to think clearly when your business is under pressure What happens when you suddenly sell for millions Why founders can struggle after an exit The impact building a business can have on family life Why Mark describes himself as addicted to work How to know when to keep going and when to sell Why some owners think they want an exit when what they really want is their life back TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Introduction 00:54 - Mark Mills' business story 02:24 - How Cardpoint became a real business 06:34 - When Mark thought it might never work 10:52 - Scaling from 3 machines to 6,500 13:36 - Are entrepreneurs born or made? 15:10 - Traits successful entrepreneurs share 17:26 - Becoming a millionaire and setting bigger goals 22:15 - How Mark helps owners scale before selling 25:55 - What success meant to Mark as a child 30:27 - Sudden wealth after a business sale 33:56 - Why founders struggle after selling 35:09 - Mark's own short retirement 39:20 - The reality behind entrepreneurial success 42:52 - Dragging a fridge through treacle 44:42 - Pressure, mental health and when to stop 45:39 - How to think clearly when everything is going wrong 48:47 - Who looks after the person at the top? 49:22 - Time management and learning to say no 52:04 - What building Cardpoint cost Mark's family 57:13 - Is Mark addicted to work? 58:35 - Falling back in love with the business 01:02:59 - TTWYK signature questions 01:03:27 - What nearly broke Mark 01:04:37 - What the next chapter looks like 01:07:23 - The £175m offer and the washing story ABOUT MARK MILLS OBE DL Mark Mills is an entrepreneur and business sale adviser. He founded Cardpoint in 2000 and grew it to around £100 million annual revenue before exiting. Since 2007, Mark has worked with established business owners to improve their companies, prepare them for sale and maximise value. Mark was awarded an OBE for services to business and charity and is a Deputy Lieutenant of Lancashire. CONNECT WITH MARK Website - https://mark.co.uk/ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/markrichardmills/ ABOUT TTWYK TTWYK stands for Tell Them What You Know. I sit down with founders, CEOs and business leaders who've actually built something and get into the experiences, decisions, mistakes and lessons behind the polished version. TTWYK also helps experienced founders and business leaders turn what they know into long-form video, short-form clips and written authority content. CONNECT WITH STEFAN / TTWYK TTWYK - https://www.ttwyk.com/ LinkedIn - https://linkedin.com/in/stefanboyleghostwriter Work with TTWYK - https://www.ttwyk.com/linkedin-ghostwriter Book a discovery call - https://calendly.com/stefan-boyle/ttwyk-podcast LinkedIn Authority Score - https://stefan-fnwmiomb.scoreapp.com If you enjoy honest conversations with founders and business leaders who've built something and have something worth saying, subscribe to TTWYK. New episodes every week. TTWYK - Tell Them What You Know. https://www.ttwyk.com/linkedin-ghostwriter

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