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What really happens when you climb to the very top of the corporate ladder? In this candid conversation on TBLI Radical Truth, Robert Rubinstein sits down with former multinational executive Thomas Ng (former Managing Director at ABB and Rexam PLC). Thomas pulls back the curtain on executive leadership, the hidden systemic pressures that punish radical honesty, the illusion of corporate status, and why he walked away from a multi-billion dollar career to build meaningful social impact. 📌 In this episode: • The unspoken rules of executive survival and corporate politics • Why the corporate structure disincentivizes complete transparency • Walking away from prestige to tackle real-world challenges • Creating sustainable employment models for the blind and underserved communities On TBLI Radical Truth, Robert Rubinstein asks him what that cost. Ten straight years of losses, ten years without drawing a salary, and a promise to his wife about the house. The episode makes three arguments: that the people nobody will employ are an underpriced workforce rather than a charity case, that you cannot be fully honest as a senior person inside a large multinational, and that the corporate career he walked away from is the only reason the second act worked. Thomas Ng spent 25 years at ABB and Rexam plc, starting ABB's first joint ventures in China and finishing as the first Asian country manager in the Philippines. He left at 47. Genashtim, the company he founded in 2008, was fully remote from day one out of necessity, employs 252 people in 39 countries, and has staff turnover of two percent. Its team does the certification analysis behind more than 11,000 B Corps in over 90 countries. WHAT'S COVERED - The upside down business: pick the people nobody will employ first, then work out what it does - Fully remote in 2008, on freeware, and the morning the entire digital office disappeared - Ten years of losses, ten years without a salary, and the promise he made his wife about the house - What his wife said back, which is the best line in the episode - Why the jobs got less meaningful the higher he climbed, and the blue, yellow and purple switchgear story - "You cannot be honest all the time as a senior corporate person in a large multinational" CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:39 Penang, a schoolteacher father, and a family with no car 02:06 Twenty five years at ABB and Rexam, and China 03:42 Walking out at 47 with all the trimmings 04:09 The computer school for the blind in Manila 04:54 Five hundred people trained, not one properly employed 05:04 Starting a company to hire them, before knowing what it would do 05:33 Fully remote in 2008, and the day the digital office vanished 07:17 Ten years of losses, ten years without a salary 08:09 What B Lab and B Corp certification actually are 09:33 B Lab scaled down for COVID, then submissions came in six times over 10:57 A pilot of twenty that became 150 people in 29 countries 12:04 From about 3,000 certified B Corps to more than 11,000 15:34 252 people, 39 countries, and 2 percent staff turnover 18:31 Blue switchgear, yellow switchgear, purple switchgear 24:28 You cannot be honest all the time in a large multinational 25:52 Japan, Indonesia, and the Malaysian government surprise 29:18 Can anyone purpose driven rise to the top of a listed company? 35:16 The promise about the house, and what his wife said back 44:39 Why greed is not a long term strategy RELATED EPISODES - Terry Mollner, who built the infrastructure of values based investing decades before the market accepted it. Same argument: patience, held long enough, stops looking like sacrifice. MORE ON THOMAS NG - Genashtim: https://genashtim.com - Thomas Ng on LinkedIn: [confirm handle before publishing] 📌 Subscribe to TBLI Radical Truth for unfiltered, deep-dive discussions challenging the conventional narratives around impact and the future of finance. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDBhRVM93uUnAAtqOMIz_yg?sub_confirmation=1 No sponsors. No pretending. EXTRACTION How business takes your money, your work, your resources, your data and your future, while presenting itself as something else entirely. Robert Rubinstein's next book, from 30 years inside the system. If this conversation makes you question where your money is actually going, Extraction takes that investigation much further. TBLI GROUP - https://www.tbligroup.com - Robert Rubinstein on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertrubinstein/ #BCorp #ImpactInvesting #ThomasNg #Genashtim #RemoteWork #DisabilityInclusion #SocialEnterprise #SustainableBusiness #BLab #PurposeDrivenBusiness #ESG #TBLIRadicalTruth Recorded August 2026. Thomas Ng joined from Kuala Lumpur.

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