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Ethical banking, at scale: Kat Taylor co-founded Beneficial State Bank, a community bank owned by nonprofits where 75% of lending must do good. Impact investing without giving up the returns. This is TBLI Radical Truth with Robert Rubinstein. Taylor argues that philanthropy is an admission society was built wrong, that a bank's most powerful act is not its giving but its lending, and that it is not enough to do good if you have not also stopped the harm. Then she describes the structures built to prove it: a bank owned by a foundation, a venture fund, a regenerative ranch, and a pledge to move a third of the family's assets into community control. Kat Taylor co-founded Beneficial State Bank in 2007 with Tom Steyer and served as its CEO for eight years. She co-founded Radicle Impact, the venture firm, and TomKat Ranch, and has signed both the Giving Pledge and the Good Life Pledge. WHAT'S COVERED - Why philanthropy is a weird admission that we have not set society up correctly, and how charity can reinforce the disparities it claims to address - The bank's warrant that 75% of lending creates positive impact and the other 25% does no harm, third party verified - Owned only by nonprofits: what changes when the economic shares sit with a foundation instead of shareholders - ESG plus: governance, lending, corporate footprint, employment, advocacy and transparency, all measured - 150% of living wage in every market, fully benefited and unionised - Why a debt model cannot reach households with no equity, and why that led to a venture fund - TomKat Ranch, regenerative ranching modelled on the great migrations, and the co-benefits that follow - The Good Life Pledge: shifting a third of assets under their control into community ownership - Resigning from Harvard's Board of Overseers after six years of failing to move them on ethical investment - Four rules to re-regulate American banking, and why the number should end in a billion, not a trillion - The credit invisible, and the high road auto loan as a way back into the credit system - ReGenesis in Spartanburg, where a 20,000 dollar EPA grant became over 300 million in investment CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction, and meeting Kat Taylor 03:18 First principles: racial and gender equity at the centre 05:21 Why social equity and environmental justice cannot be separated 06:58 Why philanthropy is an admission that society is set up wrong 08:30 Beneficial State Bank: assets, branches and nonprofit ownership 09:44 75% of lending must do good, 25% must do no harm 11:14 Paying 150% of living wage, unionised and fully benefited 12:11 Radicle Impact, and designing a better venture model 13:58 TomKat Ranch and regenerative ranching 17:18 When social enterprise was not enough, and the move into politics 20:14 The Good Life Pledge: a third of assets into community control 25:44 Why the 5% philanthropic tail cannot wag the dog 26:49 Resigning from the Harvard Board of Overseers in protest 32:21 The banker whose teenage daughters changed his mind 33:44 Three levers: other banks, regulators, and depositors moving money 36:18 The Global Alliance for Banking on Values 42:02 Four rules to re-regulate American banking 47:08 The credit invisible, and the high road auto loan 54:08 What listeners can do: align your money, and vote 58:40 ReGenesis: a 20,000 dollar EPA grant that became 300 million ▶ Subscribe for a new Radical Truth conversation every week: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDBhRVM93uUnAAtqOMIz_yg?sub_confirmation=1 RELATED EPISODES - Philipp Kauffmann, Sacred Forests, on paying for a result rather than a promise. - Michaela Berglund, Feminvest, on who actually owns the wealth they help create. MORE ON KAT TAYLOR - Beneficial State Bank: https://www.beneficialstatebank.com - Radicle Impact: https://radicleimpact.com ABOUT THE TBLI RADICAL TRUTH PODCAST Welcome to the TBLI Radical Truth Podcast, where we feature the pioneers redefining the purpose of capital. For 30 years, TBLI Group has been the world's leading ESG and impact investing network. Here's why Radical Truth is different: most finance podcasts protect the industry — Radical Truth interrogates it. Every week, unfiltered conversations with the founders, fund managers and system-changers actually moving capital toward a liveable future, and calling out the impact-washing that isn't. No sponsors. No pretending. TBLI GROUP - https://www.tbligroup.com - Robert Rubinstein on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertrubinstein/ #EthicalBanking #ImpactInvesting #CommunityBanking #SustainableFinance #CDFI #BCorp #RegenerativeAgriculture #Philanthropy #ESG #PublicBanking #KatTaylor #TBLIRadicalTruth Recorded in 2021. Figures quoted are from that date: Beneficial State Bank has since grown to roughly 2 billion dollars in assets, with over 80% of lending mission aligned.

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