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A Christian called into my live and told me Paul's letters prove that ethnic Israel is irrelevant. He said Paul explicitly states that Christians are the true Jews. I said: give me the verse. He gave me Romans 2:29. Romans 2:29 says a person is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is of the heart. I agreed with that. But that's not replacement theology. That verse says Gentiles can be grafted in through faith. It says nothing about the end of ethnic Israel. He had quoted a verse that doesn't say what he thought it said. I read him Romans 11. God has not rejected his people, Paul says this explicitly, "by no means." He says he himself is an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham from the tribe of Benjamin. He says there is a hardening over ethnic Israel until all Gentiles are grafted in, and only then will all of Israel be complete. That hardening is supposed to happen. It is required by Paul's own theology. What he was disagreeing with was not my argument. He was disagreeing with Paul. He also didn't know why it's called the West Bank. The region sits on the east side of Israel. Jordan, which only declared independence in 1946, two years before Israel, coined the term. It's west of the Jordan River, from Jordan's perspective. I asked him: as a Christian debating this topic, why are you using a political term invented by a country that was two years old? I asked him what country Jaffa is in. He said Palestine. I reminded him: five minutes ago you told me you call it the West Bank because that's what it's called internationally today. Now you're rejecting the modern name when it's Israel. He said: "From that view, I'll grant you that." He didn't know Jordan was given 78% of the land called Palestine by the British Mandate. He didn't know Palestine declared independence in 1988 in Algiers, 40 years after Israel. He didn't know the word Palestine was not given by Arabs, not by the indigenous people of any kind, it was named by Roman Emperor Hadrian after the Philistines, invaders from the Aegean most likely from Crete. In Hebrew and ancient Egyptian, Philistine means invader. When you say "I'm from Palestine," you're saying you're from the land of invaders. I walked him through a set of questions about Hamas. No military bases. Operations run from civilian areas. No military uniforms, they wear civilian clothes to blend in with the population. He answered every single question himself. At the end he said: human shields. I hadn't used the word once. He reasoned himself there. He admitted Hamas started October 7th. He admitted Hamas started this war. Watch the full conversation and decide for yourself. #NickMatau #Romans11 #ChristianZionism 00:00 I Ask What Christians Believe About Israel 01:08 I Explain Why Catholics Disagree On Zionism 02:30 I Ask What Paul Says About Ethnic Israel 03:08 I Ask Him For The Verse 04:27 I Read Romans 2 05:20 I Explain What Being Grafted In Means 06:33 I Read Romans 11 07:43 I Explain Why Paul Says Israel Was Hardened 09:16 He Brings Up The Jerusalem Council 09:44 I Return To Ethnic Israel 11:37 I Ask What God Promised The Jews 12:55 I Challenge Him On The Eternal Covenant 14:00 I Read Jeremiah 31 15:21 I Ask Him Who Israel Is 16:32 I Ask Who Esauās Brother Was 17:26 I Return To The Covenant And The Land 20:07 I Ask Who Owns The Land 20:45 I Bring Up The Cave Of The Patriarchs 22:02 I Ask Why Buying Land Counts For Abraham 22:49 I Challenge The Name āWest Bankā 24:44 I Ask Who Controlled The West Bank 26:20 I Ask Him Where Jaffa Is 26:30 I Catch His Double Standard 27:39 He Grants My Point 29:38 He Brings Up The Nakba 32:49 I Challenge The Settler-House Claim 35:16 I Ask When Palestine Declared Independence 37:42 I Ask Why Jordan Is Ignored 38:41 I Go Back Before The British Mandate 40:19 I Explain Why Presence Is Not Ownership 44:30 We Debate Gaza And Civilian Deaths 48:30 I Ask What āPalestineā Means 50:45 I Challenge The Indigenous Argument 54:08 I Ask Where The Philistines Came From 55:03 I Explain The Name āPhilistineā 55:50 I Bring Up Gaza In The Book Of Amos 57:19 He Says He Doesnāt Know The Topic 57:34 I Ask Him To Name An Israeli āHostageā 59:16 I Explain Administrative Detention 01:03:00 I Compare It To Jordanian Law 01:04:54 I Ask Him About Amalek 01:06:28 I Bring Up Hamas Leadership 01:08:56 We Debate Human Shields 01:11:26 He Brings Up Hind Rajab 01:11:55 I Ask Who Started This War 01:12:08 He Says Hamas 01:18:16 I Explain My Position On War 01:20:43 He Asks If I Would Turn On Israel 01:21:21 I Give My Answer 01:23:14 We Return To Jeremiah 31 01:27:21 I Ask About The Ten Commandments 01:29:53 I Check The Jerusalem Council 01:31:20 I Read Acts 15 01:34:24 I Explain The Christian Answer 01:35:09 He Challenges Me With Corinthians 01:36:38 I Open Romans 13 01:40:26 I Ask About The Sabbath 01:42:26 I Ask About Seventh-Day Adventists 01:42:49 We End The Debate
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