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Has your job become all-consuming as a leader in your organisation? Whether it’s organisational transformation, doing big M&A deals or handling a crisis, your health and relationships can be the things most impacted. In this episode I am joined by Klaus Kleinfeld, former CEO of Siemens, and author of "Leading to Thrive." He emphasizes the importance of energy management for sustainable success, highlighting four energy sources: physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual. Leaders need to balance both work and personal life to thrive in their roles, while maintaining their well-being. Klaus explores how to do this through dual mastery of the inner and outer game of leadership. This conversation challenges orthodoxy and sets out a manifesto for aspiring and experienced leaders alike. “Too many leaders ignore themselves for too long. Then they burn out.” – Klaus You'll hear about: ● Making sure leadership isn’t all-consuming and impacting your health. ● How mastering the inner game involves managing energy and mindset. ● Trust and conflict management being vital for high-performing teams. ● Diversity should be tied to performance, not just a goal. ● Effective leadership cascades practices throughout the organisation. 00:00 - Start 01:02 - Challenging CEO narratives 04:10 - The application of energy management 06:42 - Introducing the issue of energy management 11:27 - CEOs & leading a healthy life with family 15:07 - Role modelling & cascading energy management 19:41 - Transitioning between roles 24:38 - Working with a team that isn't working together 28:43 - Klaus on the backlash against DEI 34:16 - The impact Klaus wants to have on the world About Dr. Klaus Kleinfeld: Dr. Klaus Kleinfeld is the only leader to have successfully served as CEO of two Fortune 500 giants on different continents: Alcoa in the US and Siemens in Germany. With a nearly forty-year career spanning multiple industries, from established businesses to tech startups, he has advised US presidents and global leaders across Europe, Asia, and the Middle East. As the founder of K2Elevation, he invests in North American and European tech and biotech firms. Actively engaged in private sector, public affairs, and cultural boards, Dr. Kleinfeld, a dual US and European citizen, enjoys work, life, and family near New York. Resources: • Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/klauskleinfeld/ • Book ‘Leading to Thrive’: https://www.leading-to-thrive.com/ My resources: Take my new Becoming a Strategic Leader course (https://bit.ly/3KJYDTj) Sign up to my Every Day is a Strategy Day newsletter (http://bit.ly/36WRpri) for modern mindsets and practices to help you get ahead. Subscribe to my YouTube channel (http://bit.ly/3cFGk1k) where you can watch the conversation. For more details about me: ● Services (https://rb.gy/ahlcuy) to CEOs, entrepreneurs and professionals. ● About me (https://rb.gy/dvmg9n) - my background, experience and philosophy. ● Examples of my writing https://rb.gy/jlbdds) ● Follow me and engage with me on LinkedIn (https://bit.ly/2Z2PexP) ● Follow me and engage with me on Twitter (https://bit.ly/36XavNI)

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