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Can you be a genuine ally without making it about yourself? 🎙️ In this candid, insightful, and often hilarious episode of Just Us with Liz & Kere, the hosts respond to a letter from a white female leader who wants to better support the Black women on her team—but worries her efforts sometimes come across as performative, awkward, or tone-deaf. Together, Liz and Kere unpack what authentic allyship really looks like, explore the difference between intention and impact, and discuss how leaders can create meaningful support without centering themselves in the conversation. 💡 In this episode, you’ll learn: ✅ Why good intentions don’t always lead to positive impact ✅ What authentic allyship looks like in the workplace ✅ How leaders can support diverse teams more effectively ✅ The difference between sponsorship, advocacy, and performative support ✅ How to ask questions respectfully and build trust ✅ Why listening may be the most powerful leadership skill of all ✅ Common mistakes well-intentioned allies make ✅ How to create a more inclusive workplace culture Along the way, Liz and Kere share real workplace stories, leadership lessons, and practical advice for anyone looking to become a better ally, manager, colleague, or leader. Then things take a hilarious turn with their “Top 10 Reasons Kere Isn’t Going to the Cookout”—a funny yet thought-provoking conversation about culture, belonging, inclusion, community, and who gets invited. Whether you’re a leader, HR professional, manager, business owner, or someone committed to building stronger relationships across differences, this episode delivers valuable insights, honest conversations, and plenty of laughs. ⏱️ Timestamps 0:00 Welcome to Just Us with Liz & Kere 0:09 Why Liz is repping UVA and the connection to allyship 2:41 Just Us merchandise spotlight 3:17 Read Out Letter: “Trying But Still Learning” 3:37 A leader wants to be a better ally but keeps missing the mark 5:02 Why intention and impact are not the same thing 7:16 The questions every ally should ask themselves 8:22 The simplest allyship advice: Treat people like people 9:13 Why cultural performativity misses the point 10:03 The workplace story that explains accidental othering 12:19 Human-to-human conversations vs. racializing every interaction 13:32 Sponsorship, advocacy, and using your influence wisely 14:57 Why Black employees are not your cultural classroom 16:22 The awkward questions people really ask 18:58 Curiosity, sincerity, and creating safe conversations 21:38 How to ask questions without putting people on the spot 23:10 What authentic allyship actually looks like 25:27 Listening without making someone else’s experience your own 26:30 The difference between performative and meaningful support 27:22 Ask yourself: Am I helping or trying to be seen helping? 28:07 Why genuine allies matter 🔥 Top 10: Reasons Kere Isn’t Going to the Cookout 29:00 The “Cookout” conversation begins 33:22 #10 – We don’t know who’s going to be there 34:15 #9 – Who made the potato salad? 35:02 #8 – The cookout isn’t a fashion show 36:29 #7 – Somebody’s going to get cussed out 37:09 #6 – It’s too hot outside 38:47 #5 – Somebody brought Baby’s Kids 40:12 #4 – The parking situation is unacceptable 41:36 #3 – If the Ques aren’t making the chicken, why are we here? 44:18 #2 – The cookout has become too gentrified 47:51 #1 – The cookout isn’t even real 51:35 Why allyship and inclusion still matter 52:13 Progress only happens when people work together 55:24 Final thoughts and episode wrap-up #allyship #authenticallyship #workplaceallyship #diversityandinclusion #DEI #womeninleadership #inclusiveleadership

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